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dlin4229

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文章編號：90717411

The OEM dampers from my son's Accord are quite stiff...

However, when I just hit the brake slightly, I could feel the nose diving from that Accord was quite excessive and unsmooth... Then I immediately realized Accord definitely had very soft suspension(or springs) which was really mediocre ride!!! (I don't even bother trying that Accord on mountain roads!!!)

Acura TLX is definitely a bit more sporty than Accord, even though TLX is a bit more comfortable!!! (Of course!!! Otherwise, Acura needs to fire all its engineers!!! 笑到噴淚

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dlin4229

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文章編號：90723584

Yesterday I softened my Ohlins again... 笑到噴淚

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Now, the settings are 8/12. (The stiffest in the past were 6/9)

Yes. the response was a little slower but what you get was MORE GRIP. I also kept telling myself I would get more grip!!! Yes, more grip!!! Guess what... I also became very confident even though my Ohlins was softened a bit now!!! 拇指向上

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So, that's a different type of confidence!!! rock

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My ride also became SMOOTHER when the road was bumpy!!! 拇指向上

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Yes... That's another type of confidence!!! rock

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So, all in all, I think both stiffer and softer Ohlins settings can let me be confident... But, softer settings are really faster, not feeling faster like stiffer Ohlins settings in the past!!! 拇指向上

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PS: You can tune Ohlins stiffer on racetracks as racetracks are much more smoother... However, on public roads, THE SOFTER THE BETTER!!! 拇指向上

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(just firm enough to keep those very stiff springs from bouncing!!! rock

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dlin4229

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文章編號：90765841

Now, I think these aftermarket coilovers(suspension) are really flexible and wonderful!!! 拇指向上

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Actually, there is NO such a setting like PERFECT OR MAGIC SETTING for these aftermarket coilovers!!! 笑到噴淚

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In fact, every setting could be a perfect setting. It all depends on what you want!!! Please be noted every time you change on those settings, you get Pros and Cons AT THE SAME TIME...

1. Softer --> More grip and comfortable
2. Stiffer --> More controlled ride and quicker response
3. Stiffer at the front or softer at the rear --> Less aggressive setup or more understeering setup (more stable on wet)
4. Softer at the front or stiffer at the rear --> More aggressive setup or more oversteering setup (quicker handling)

So, every setting could be a perfect setting. It all depends on what you want and road conditions!!!

That's why if you ask 10 people about their settings, you may get 10 different results... 笑到噴淚

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PS: I'm almost 60 now. If you ask me whether I will put an Ohlins or something similar on my next car, the answer is "Definitely YES!!!" 笑到噴淚

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dlin4229

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文章編號：90765871

The below comment is from the aggressive driver in the video...

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As for damping, I usually start soft on mountain roads, only add damping when it’s not holding the springs or when I need faster transition, rarely go hard. I don’t use R mode on my CTR(Civic Type R) cos it’s way too harsh on these roads, SOFT usually works the best.

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That driver also thinks R mode on Civic Type R is too harsh and not good on mountain roads!!! 拇指向下

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PS: I think what that aggressive driver really wants should be quicker lap time. So, softer damping means more grip which contributes better lap time. (That's why TLX is more comfortable than Accord, Porsche is more comfortable than BMW...)

Of course, every thing has pros and cons. So, you need to trade in some quicker response for more grip or better lap time!!! 笑到噴淚

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dlin4229

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文章編號：90775591

I think I really love my GSF on highways...

Today I tried almost 100mph on a curvy highway... I still felt NOTHING on that highway. Just felt like a normal straight highway. In my previous car 2007 G35S with KW V3. I felt a little scared at 75mph or above on the same highway...

So, I think these modern somewhat heavy but more rigid cars should really shine on HIGHER speed!!!

PS: Don't get me wrong... These heavier cars could be also good on low speed mountain roads. Even with the OEM suspension, my GSF felt as nimble as a new Miata(ND) I rented for a day!!! (Why??? That's because GSF's OEM springs are 5 times stiffer than Miata's. If you consider Miata's weight which is only 60% of GSF's, GSF OEM springs are still 3 times stiffer!!! Of course, my current Ohlins's springs are even stiffer which are 4-5 times stiffer than Miata's, even if I also consider Miata's weight!!!)

dlin4229

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You may think my current GSF is invincible now!!!

Of course, NOT!!! That's because that curvy highway is not curvy enough!!! 笑到噴淚

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If I push my GSF over 0.4G or 0.5G, I still felt scared!!! 笑到噴淚

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So, the modern cars get more and more rigid but they are still FAR FROM PERFECT!!! 笑到噴淚

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dlin4229

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文章編號：90777324

My previous car G35S was actually a more hardcore car, as I also upgrades its F&R sway bars!!!(Actually G35S had less body rolls and lower ride height than my current GSF!!! 笑到噴淚

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I also tune KW V3 dampers in G35S at least 75% firm!!! Right now, my GSF's Ohlins is 8/12 (1 is firmest, 15-30 are very similar and the softest. So the rear is almost the softest now!!!)

I also expect if I put Ohlins in regular GS, the result should be similar!!! (as GSF is only 10% more rigid than regular GS!!! 笑到噴淚

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I think that's why Lexus stops making GS or refuses to build a new platform for the current IS, as the current GS and IS platforms are already very good. (But, many people didn't like them) Lexus don't think the next GS and IS platforms will be A LOT better!!! So, that's not an engineering issue but a marketing issue!!!

In addition, many people say modern cars are too heavy already... To build more rigid car, the weight must be increased except you adopt some very expensive materials like carbon fiber!!! (Even new NSX built in aluminum is still a bit heavy which is almost as heavy as GSF!!!)

dlin4229

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文章編號：90792869

Now, my wife and I plan to travel cross America, Canada and Alaska when we're retired!!! (I'm almost 60 now!!!)

So, we need a car which has some requirements as below...
1. at least 4 dr sedan(Big cargo space. SUVs have even more cargo space, but no fun!!!)
2. at least 500hp(I want to have some fun on the roads!!! 笑到噴淚

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3. reliable
4. old

You may think why we need a car which is somewhat OLD!!! 笑到噴淚

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As we need a car which has 500hp at least, we need a SUPER sedan, not ordinary sedan. However, those SUPER sedans such as M5, Panamera turbo are very expensive. Will you drive those expensive sedans on Alaska rough highway when they're still new??? (I don't even drive a GSF on those bad highways when my GSF is new!!!) We also need to pack some stuff like bikes. Will you put bikes on the back seat in those expensive cars without any hesitation when they're still new???

So, we need an OLD car, not a NEW car!!! 笑到噴淚

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(So, we need an OLD and RELIABLE car. Yes!!! That's my current GSF!!! 拇指向上

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PS: Even though I buy a LFR(LFA2) in the future, I will NOT drive that car on notorious Alaska-Canada highways!!! (I'm NOT so rich, OK??? 笑到噴淚

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dlin4229

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You may say GSF is not a 500hp sedan... (only 467hp from factory)

You're right. But, I can put an aftermarket header and a tune... Then it will become a TURE 500hp sedan!!! rock

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dlin4229

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文章編號：90793034

These foldable bikes are my wife and I's new toys!!! 笑到噴淚

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Recently, I put two of them on the back seat of my GSF every weekend. Then, go to any where we want and have fun!!! rock

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(I also put them in durable bike bags first!!!)

PS: My current GSF is almost 8 year old now. So, I don't expect it to be maintained like new for 10 or 20 years!!! (We're using the car, not BABYING the car!!! 笑到噴淚

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Finally, I can treat my GSF like a TRUCK!!! rock

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