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I just found Porsche GT3/GT4's ground clearance was only 3.2 inches!!! 嚇到吃手手

My current GSF is only about 0.5 inch lower than a stock GSF's 5.0 ground clearance but sometimes I still think it's a little troublesome...

My son's lower G35S is about 1.3 inch lower than a stock G35S's ground clearance 5.1 but should still be 0.5 inch higher than GT3/GT4!!! 笑到噴淚

(Pleased be noted Porsche Cayman S's ground clearance is 5.2 inches and 911 base's is 4.3 inches)

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I added RSR and Swift springs to compare with the existing spring rates data I got from Internet and make sure if those data are correct...

It seems Vw's oem spring rates should be even lower than those posted in the sheet, as RSR should be 0-10% stiffer than OEM!!!

(It's already a bit lower than others)

(However, Vw's Ohlins looks as stiff as others... So, the oem spring rates could be quite low!!!)

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It looks like LC500 is about as stiff as other Lexus non F cars... (Of course, LC500 should be more comfortable than other non F cars)

In addition, 2015 or later GT-R premium should be a bit softer than 2009 GT-R... I think it could be about as stiff as stock GSF/RCF...

I also think stock GSF should be slightly stiffer NF210 for GSF and about as stiff as ISF... (many NF210s in my sheet are actually softer than OEMs!!!)

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I also found Q50/Q70 was about 5% and 10% softer than G37/M35, respectively but I'm pretty sure Q50/Q70 should be quieter and more comfortable... (I'd driven Q50 many times!!! 笑到噴淚

)

G35/G37(V36) is also 5% stiffer than G35(V35). So, V36 should be the stiffest...

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I also think IS350(XE20) and IS350(XE30) are about the same stiff...

Similarly, GS350(L10) and GS350(S190) are also about the same stiff but IS should be slightly stiffer than GS...

(However, I believe XE30 and L10 should be more fun and handle better than XE20 and S190, respectively)

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This 86 spun like crazy... 笑到噴淚

(This also remind me of my son's G35S... quite scary!!!)

My GSF did also spin several times (OEM PSS tires don't like cold weather)

However, my GSF was much more gradual and graceful... (still scary but not as scary as my sons' G35S and this 86!!! 笑到噴淚

)

(You may think my GSF is a bigger car... Actually the wheelbases of G35S and GSF are exactly THE SAME!!!)

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I'm doing some researches on ground clearance... 笑到噴淚

(ground clearance is also very important to sporty handling!!!)

Believe it or not... The ground clearances of some German luxury family cars could be as low as 4.2 inches!!! 嚇到吃手手

(GT-R's is 4 inches)

Japanese luxury cars are usually about 5 inches (including LC500 and F cars!!!)

No wonder those German cars are more prone to oil leaks!!! 笑到噴淚

PS: My current lower GSF is around 4.5 inches... So, 4.2 inches for family cars is ridiculous, I believe!!! 拇指向下

325i E90

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These cars are SO SLOW!!! 嚇到吃手手

(That's really NOT GOOD!!! 拇指向下

)

2014 C300

2007 A4

2017 A4

2010 125i

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In my opinion, a good comparison with 86 should be 370Z Nismo, not 370Z.

I think even the sporty version of 370Z is still TOO COMFORTABLE, just like Infinitis!!! 笑到噴淚

(That's why that guy owning 911 S still preferred KW V3 even though the spring rates were not very different!!!)

That's why about 20 years ago... A guy in a auto repair shop in Taipei told me that he didn't like Infiniti because Infiniti changed Nissan a bit... Now, I think I finally understand what he meant... 笑到噴淚

(I think he really knew something!!!)

(Fortunately, GT-R R35 is still a pure Nissan, I think 笑到噴淚

)

So, I should only try the Nismo version of the new Z and skip all the other Z... (However, Nismo Z is not cheap!!! Some people actually suggest to use those additional money to buy a good aftermarket suspension, exhaust, wheels, tires, etc)

This guy owning 370Z Nismo preferred KW V3 as OEM Nismo suspension was too harsh!!! 笑到噴淚

(I don't think 86 will be more comfortable than Nismo)

370Z Nismo vs KW V3

PS: You may think 86 is stiff... Actually S2000 is even more stiff!!! 笑到噴淚

(I just learned it from Internet)

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I think even in 911s the luxury and the very aggressive suspension cannot exist at the same time!!! (Those rich people cannot tolerate very stiff ride... 笑到噴淚

i.e. very aggressive dampers)

So, I think my current GSF is really the best of both worlds... Nothing more or less!!! (I cannot complain anymore... Just like I cannot complain the reliability of my son's very old G35S now!!! 笑到噴淚

)

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