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[彭博] 中國一帶一路計劃5年來的成就打臉政晶台媒都是意識形態掛帥假新聞愚民

中國一帶一路計劃5年來的成就 [美國媒體]

Feb.03 -- Mahamoud Islam, senior economist for APAC at Euler Hermes, discusses China's Belt & Road initiative and what has been accomplished in the five years since its launch. He speaks on "Bloomberg Markets: Asia."

2月3日，Euler Hermes公司研究APAC的高級經濟學家，Mahamoud Islam，討論了中國的一帶一路計劃，以及該計劃啟動5年來實現的成就。

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中國一帶一路計劃5...(恕刪)

政晶的节目很台肯

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Guiltyone0
China gets s*h*i*t done while America is tearing itself apart over what gender means

中國做成了事情，而美國卻在為了“性別意味着什麼”的話題而自我撕裂。

Shawn Nie
Actually sometimes China just give up asking debt back after years. Really appreciate those kind guys in comments. Western media could be biased and Chinese media is also biased. I'd rather read both.

實際上中國有時候會直接放棄索取欠款。真的很感謝發表評論的那些好心人。西方媒體可能有偏見，中國媒體也可能有偏見。我寧願二者兼聽。

Walter Black
Western countries want to keep the world poor, so that they can always have a cheap source of slave labor and exploit their natural resources. Nothing has changed.

西方國家想要讓世界繼續貧窮，所以他們總能擁有廉價的勞動力來源，並剝削那裡的自然資源。沒什麼變化。

Giang Truong
If you don't like it there is always that old fashion USA alternatives. Like Bombs and Ruins initiatives.

如果你不喜歡一帶一路，還有一個選項一直在那裡：老舊的美國。比如炸彈和毀滅計劃。

Hong Shi
From what I know, China does not exclude country from Belt and Road Initiative.
I think they are even inviting the west to join, but it is the west that don’t see the profits of investing Africa and rejects it.
So if African countries wantes to borrow and the west will not lend to them, and China is willing to lend to Africa.
Then the only option for the African is to borrow from China.
I understand that some of the loans may not end up well, but I trust African people. They will not intensionally not returning money, but some project just will not turn up to be too profitable, which is understandable.
But its not right to just watch the African nations to stay in poor.
And, as Chinese people age, sooner or later, they are going to import goods from other country. I think it is good that we build up Africa, and when we want to import good, we import from Africa.
I think a lot of African people just need a chance to learn, once they know how to make a living in this industralised world they will be able to contribute more to the human race. It is just that they probably need some help from the outside world in the begining.

據我所知，中國並沒有排除任何國家參與一帶一路計劃。
我覺得他們甚至邀請西方加入，但西方不認為投資非洲有利可圖，所以拒絕了。
所以如果西方國家想要借錢，西方又不會借給他們，而中國願意。那麼非洲唯一的選擇就是從中國借錢。
我明白其中有些貸款或許結局不好，但我相信非洲人民。他們不會故意不還錢，但某些工程確實不會有太高的收益，這是可以理解的。
但是坐視非洲國家繼續貧窮下去是不對的。
而且，隨着中國的老齡化，他們遲早會從其他國家進口東西。我認為我們建設非洲是一件好事，當我們想要進口產品時，我們可以從非洲進口。
我認為很多非洲人所需要的只不過是一個學習的機會，一旦他們知道如何在這個工業化的世界謀生，他們就能為人類做出更大的貢獻。只不過他們一開始需要獲得外界的一些幫助。

John Koh
When was Bloomberg become a Chinaphobia??

彭博社什麼時候變成了恐華症患者？

D hookster
so many China loving fools who thinks they know CCP's intentions!

好多熱愛中國的傻瓜，他們自以為了解CCP的企圖！

Bolero Bolero
God bless China.

上帝保佑中國。

Qinby 1
A one way road???
If the Belt and Road is one way there is a serious design flaw…..
MORON
Trade takes 2 parties….

一條單行道？
如果一帶一路是單行道，那肯定存在嚴重的設計缺陷……
白痴，
貿易是兩方的行為……

legal eagle
Sri Lanka port now belongs to china. Hell yeah

斯里蘭卡現在屬於中國了。大家都知道。

dominic selvarajoo
What is the meaning of Belt? It is a safe guard from loosing influence to others. It has all about insecurity
for both party and in the end the winner takes all.This is a new form of ideology and always fought in the
name of a game spreading in the name of materialism.Look for positive element to eliminate this new type
of disease.The west has recognized it but the third world countries have not Remember nothing
is worth to gain for a nation besides hardwork and useful knowledge.World domination is a fact.The perpertrators of greed and evil will face the Road in the end.

“帶”是什麼意思？是為了確保對其他人的影響力。它對雙方來說都不安全，最終贏者通吃。這是一種新型的意識形態，總是打着物質主義的名義在傳播詭計。需要找到積極因素，來消除這種新型疾病。西方已經認出來了，但第三世界國家還沒有。請記住，對於一個國家而言，除了勤奮工作和有用的知識以外，再沒有什麼值得獲取了。世界霸權是一個現實。貪婪和邪惡的壞人最終會面對這條道路。

Onion
By Gilad Kabilo September 3, 2017 From the Jerusalem Post:
Israel’s role in China’s flagship policies. Chinese one belt road. These steps will allow Israel to enjoy the benefits of the new global connection that China wishes to establish. Historically, the land of Israel has been a strategic link between Asia, Europe and Africa, and now it is the time to revive that role.

耶路撒冷郵報，2017年9月3日報道，Gilad Kabilo說：
“以色列在中國首要政策中的作用，那些步驟讓以色列享受新型全球關係的好處，而中國希望創建這種關係。歷史上，以色列的位置一直是亞洲、歐洲和非洲的戰略節點，現在恢復這種作用正當其時。”

Darth Vader
India should be wary of this CPEC. We already have bad relationships with our neighbours and this road provides infrastructure support and connectivity to attack India on its northern border. Our allies Russia, America and Israel are located far away from the subcontinent, we’re so isolated in case of an attack except for the Indian Ocean outlet.

印度應該對這個CPEC保持謹慎態度。我們已經與我們的鄰國關係惡劣，而且如果他們想從北方邊境進攻進度，這條路可以提供基礎設施支持和通道。我們的盟友俄羅斯、美國和以色列都相距甚遠，遠在另一個大陸，如果發生進攻，除了印度洋的出口外，我們孤立無助。

Virus Xtal
The big collapse of China is on its way, being achieved by talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and ...

中國的大崩潰正在進行當中，通過嘴炮、嘴炮、嘴炮和無數的嘴炮就能將其實現……

ARBAZ QURESHI
5 years is peanuts for a mega project of this scale.Give it atleast 20 years more and then see it.

對於這麼大規模的超級工程來說，5年只是短短一瞬。至少要等20年再來看。

Chao Yoong
Long time ago USA after WW2 rebuilt Germany, Japan, S Korea under the Marshall Plan which was touted as stabilizing the world after the war...So why is that providing infrastructures to those less developed nations is now a problem? At the end of the day - it is how someone wants to SPIN the issue....after WW2 it was called rebuilding society and now it is called Loan to Own? oh well

很久以前，二戰後美國重建德國、日本、韓國的馬歇爾計劃被包裝成為戰後穩定世界的大事。那為什麼現在向那些欠發達國家提供基礎設施卻變成一個問題？歸根結底，這就是某些人扭曲這個問題的做法，二戰後這種做法被稱之為重建國家，現在卻被叫做貸款強佔？得了吧。

investment tudor
Each particular investments has to be returning a monetary return exceeding the cost of capital. Will they? How much transparency will there be? I have serious doubts that they will. Therefore, it's real value to China has to be other than monetary.

每一項特定投資都必須獲得超過資本成本的貨幣回報。這些投資會嗎？有多少透明度？我很懷疑。因此，該計劃對中國的實際價值肯定是貨幣以外的。

Sidney King
Everything you hear from a human being are opinions (maybe including mine, )not facts

我們從他人（或許我也在內）嘴裡聽到的一切東西都是看法，而不是事實。

Morgan Von
Holy shit. So many people who even never been to China can have such confidence in Belt and Road. Even I, as a Chinese, has no confidence in such a stupid plan which can only fxxk Chinese people who work hard every day. Fxxk off stupid western left shitty

我的天，這麼多從來沒有來中國的人都對一帶一路這麼有信心。連我一個中國人都對這個愚蠢的計劃沒有信心，它只會剝削每天辛勤工作的中國人。愚蠢的西方左派垃圾滾蛋。

Sadaf Zobayer
Belt and road initiative is awesome. Love from Bangladesh

一帶一路棒極了。來自孟加拉國的愛。

megakids
These Chinese bitches have no brains. They are a face with heavy makeup and spit out shits that the editor told them to do.

那些中國婊子沒腦子。她們臉上塗了二斤粉，編輯說什麼她們就往外噴什麼。

X Y Z
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want American Bombs, than Chinese Buildings in your countries.

隨便啦！
我希望降臨到你們國家的是美國的炸彈，而不是中國的基建。

Michael Zimmermann
China has a plan.
It has adapted and changed.
It has done critical thinking.
It has a plan that goes out 10 years.
The stunned Americunts are still living in the past and will be 50 years just to catch up.

中國有計劃。
它適應並改變。
它進行批判性思考。
它的計劃可以延續10年。
而目瞪口呆的美國笨蛋卻依然生活在過去，僅僅是追上來就需要50年。

holly yates
Built with chinese loan using chinese companies and labor.

藉助中國的貸款，利用中國的公司和勞動力建設。

T2
You want to make $$$, you deal with China, ok.
The west wont given you a d@NM thing anyway.

你想賺美元，那就跟中國打交道，ok。
無論如何西方也不會在乎你一點點。

Freddy Krueger
Belt & Road is a scheme to bury countries in debt to China with unprofitable white elephant projects.
Also the so called infrastructure built is not worth any where near the big bill China hands these countries for building it.

一帶一路是一項利用大而無用的工程，把各國埋葬在中國的債務當中的計劃。
這些所謂的基礎設施建設，與中國為那些國家建設所開出的賬單相比也是不值一提。

Spectral lim
Well we never expect the West to go quietly in the night. Everyone can take care of themselves now so no need for the West to have bases. Having bases is neo colonisation.

嗯，我們從來沒指望西方晚上能消停一下。每個人都會照顧好自己，所以不需要西方在他們那裡建造基地。畢竟建造基地就是新殖民主義嘛。

John Baldwin
These anchors are clueless and seem to take in the anti-China narrative to oppose the successes that China is accomplishing... several years ago [ 2010 ] when the word was out that China's RMB was going to be the 5th global reserve currency in the SDR Basket was completely shunned to disbelief that it would never ever be in the basket of currencies?!?
I knew it that RMB will indeed make it back in 2013...
Then in 2015 that China's ICBC bank took the lead as the world's most valuable bank knocking off Wells Fargo by 11%!
AIIB came into the picture and invited all nations to join as Founding Members was a severe blow to the US as the US have asked their closest allies and trade partners not to join but they, in fact, did for the exception of Japan and the United States... but still AIIB has an open invitation to US and Japan but not as Founding Members... Plus AIIB is fully funded in RMB, not USD petrodollar!!!
The New Silk Road Initiative or One Belt One Road plus their Five Year Plan initiative is an ongoing success and it is way too early to start finalizing critical assumptions but looking at what China is doing globally more so than any other country on infrastructure projects and more is amazing!
This historical invitation is meant to be a win-win for all nations not for China to the top-grossing GDP country in the world?!? Not true...
China has also taken on to eliminate poverty for their people and has lifted over hundreds of millions and the goal is to complete that feat by 2020 as the several million are left to complete that achievement; this has also gained global recognition and so far 2 countries want to follow their model in Africa and Russia.
Why isn't our own government and their experts not doing this here in the US to end poverty and homelessness including a list of what is so wrong in this nation that needs solutions and a plan to act upon

那些主持人一竅不通，似乎持有反華的立場，對中國正在實現的成功表示反對……幾年前[2010]，當中國的人民幣即將成為SDR籃子中第五種全球儲備貨幣的消息剛剛出現時，舉世嘩然，他們紛紛表示不相信：“它永遠也不可能進入貨幣籃子！！”
但我知道人民幣會做到的，而它在2013年確實做到了……
然後是2015年，中國工商銀行摘取了全球最有價值銀行的桂冠，超過美國富國銀行11%！亞投行浮出水面，邀請所有國家作為創始成員國加入，這給美國沉重一擊，因為美國要求他們最親密的盟國和貿易夥伴不要加入，而除了日本和美國以外，那些國家都加入了。但是亞投行的邀請依然向美國和日本開放，但是不是創始成員國……另外亞投行是完全由人民幣出資，而非美國的石油美元！
新絲路計劃（或稱一帶一路），以及他們的五年計劃是一項持續進行的成功，開始做出最終結論還為時尚早，但是看看中國，它在全球基礎設施項目建設方面做的比任何國家都多，而且越來越多，這真是令人稱奇！
這項歷史性的邀請對所有國家而言都是雙贏，而不是讓中國成為全球GDP最高的國家？並非如此……
中國也承擔了本國人民消除貧困的重任，它已經讓數億人脫離貧困，目標是在2020年前完成這一壯舉，因為還剩下數百萬人未能實現這一點。這一點也獲得了全世界的承認，迄今為止，非洲的兩個國家和俄羅斯希望遵循他們的模式。
為什麼我們美國政府和專家們沒有做到這一點呢？這個國家的問題包括貧困、無家可歸者、以及一系列不對的地方，它們都需要解決方案和計劃來遵照執行。

Gustavo Brandao
The China bashing by the West never stops..... lol...lol....

對中國的抨擊永不停息……lol……

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政晶的节目很台肯...(恕刪)

台媒都是意識形態掛帥假新聞愚民

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仇恨中國最深的不是那些惡毒的福壽膏商人後代,而是那些自以理性客觀中立,一邊吃孟山都腐肉一邊反華反漢的"中國人"

那些反華反漢的“中國人”其實只是演員而已，西方需要通過他們之口來進行反華宣傳，好避免被人扣上種族主義的帽子。

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沒有利益，你覺得真有人會主動當漢奸？
漢奸在某種程度上也都是演員，沒有哪個中國人一生下來就註定要當漢奸，他們最後都只是為了利益才出演叛徒角色而已。
建議你不要對人性報有太大的期望，任何人都可能背叛。一切東西都有價碼，很多時候，人們之所以沒背叛，僅僅只是對手價碼沒出夠而已。
事實上，很多大家事先都認為要背叛的人最後反而當不成漢奸，因為這種人大家最後都不會信任和重用，所有他們最後也沒有背叛的籌碼和價值。
恰恰是很多大家之前絕對想不到會背叛的人，最後當了漢奸。
比如洪承疇、吳三桂、汪精衛，這些人就是典型的例子。
這些人在最後背叛之前的形象比你現在表現得都要光輝正直、義正言辭多了。