已經達成財務自由的大大們, 可以分享一下嗎?

M013782989 wrote:
我只是回應主題:財務...(恕刪)


我的標準這家的茶當然不OK
但以我當標準不是太適合的啦
對茶我嘴叼
但我可以喝白開水就好
M013782989
你是行家,平凡老百姓只是想喝OK一點的茶,有這麼難嗎?[偷笑][偷笑][偷笑]
M013782989 wrote:
我只是回應主題:財務...(恕刪)


那個廣告標題就太離譜了
第一名會都賣他?
有可能嗎?
然後誰定義第一名呢?
然後產區第一就好?
舉例來說好了
採收時整區都長時間下雨的雨水茶
那就是都不好啊
那個第一也是不好不是
M013782989
這也是我?的地方,只是資訊網路很發達,買它的茶,有時候8點賣,沒3分鐘就說賣完了。[偷笑]
economic wrote:
M01378...(恕刪)


我是都買梅山的比賽茶,

有好的建議嗎?


sunflower2251
1800 和 60000 差很多的. [偷笑]
M013782989
什麼人玩什麼鳥吧~[偷笑][偷笑][偷笑]
M013782989 wrote:
我是都買梅山的比賽茶...(恕刪)


我這樣說可能不是太恰當
但這幾年梅山鄉農會的茶認同度不高
青心烏龍類比賽茶認同度高的還是凍頂大賽
梅山鄉農會的我認識的管道拿到的價格比你貼出來的優
梅山鄉這幾年主審是郭寬福
他偏好味道比較重一點的路線
M013782989
錢不是我考量問題,股票輸贏都是千萬元,茶這種價位,說實話~廉價啊[偷笑][偷笑][偷笑]
economic wrote:
M01378...(恕刪)


我大都買高山烏龍茶,

有推薦的茶行嗎?(有網址)

有機會我去買買?
M013782989 wrote:
我大都買高山烏龍茶,...(恕刪)


茶好壞是喝出來的
建議自己要有判斷的能力
賣茶的除了少數特殊之外當然為的是賺錢而不是為了賣好茶
很高海拔的烏龍如果論真實性
以103K或101K來說
英雄茶賣的是真的
但好壞就看每一季的狀況
以去年來當例子好了
去年的春茶很好
但冬茶就不好
但跟這家基本不會假
但跟好壞得自己判斷
economic wrote:
錢不是我考量問題,股票輸贏都是千萬元,茶這種價位,說實話~廉價啊...(恕刪)


如果要論高價位
那茶有可能是最高的飲料(論高價比酒和咖啡要高價)
以我來說也有喝一泡5萬台幣的阿(喝過2~3次而已)
一斤上萬的茶我一年喝個幾十次還是一定有的
換個角度其實跟價格沒關係
沒那個判別能力其實變相的是浪費東西不是嗎

我們這藏家圈也相當比例你認為的財富自由的人
一個月光喝茶就喝幾十萬起跳的
但即使這樣的人
有錢也不見得就能喝得比我豐富
嘿嘿
M013782989 wrote:
econom...(恕刪)


一早泡了一泡3500元的茶,

茶氣清香,底蘊十足,

喝茶要比喝多少錢的嗎?

我覺得大可不必,

原因為何呢?

我認為3500元的茶,跟20000元的茶

我喝起來差不了多少,

以價差而言,沒有達到非買不可的地步,

用財力的角度來說,

用今日的數字而言,

手上可動用的現金部位,

約莫在7500萬左右,

真要喝2萬元的茶,也沒心疼的感覺,

只能說CP值過低而已,

財富的累積以穩為重,

超過我能力的財富也非我能駕馭,

在穩定的基礎上,慢慢將數字放大,

才是既長又遠的可行之路,

希望來年我能再來回應此樓,

看看財富能到哪個空氣稀薄的境界~
economic wrote:
econom...(恕刪)


與其要追求口感豐富,

我手持7500萬,外加無貸款的8間房,

喝再貴的茶,對我而言也是隨心所欲的事而已,

反之,你能隨時拿出7500萬的現金嗎?

隨時拿的出8間無貸款的房產嗎?

高下立判了吧,我只能說,

要說大話還是要有底氣啊,

喝茶論輸贏,背後較的還是數字的多與寡。
M013782989 wrote:
1.名下主從債務為0,
2.高於一般授薪主管的被動收入,
3.至少要擁有,有價值的2間房,
4.至少能有2000萬不動的定存,
具備以上4點再來說財富自由才有意義,

財富自由(X)
財務自由(O)

什麼時候出現「財富自由」這個詞了?
用中文腦袋思考一下,那是什麼意思?

Financial independence 翻成財務自由已經很差了,
現在變成財富自由就更不合中文邏輯了。

最近艾普斯坦的檔案很紅,
Reddit 上面有一篇談到文件中,
包含的一份,關於億萬富豪的生活開銷。
結果你猜怎麼著,
下面有人說就他還得跟著 Larry Ellison, 住著他的客房。

財富自由喔?至少也得有管家,廚師,司機,船長,機長才對。
當年身家五十億美元,月花銷才60萬美元,
(現在身家132億美元)
大概月花1/8333的財產。
要比摳門,我遠遠比不上他







I looked at Justice Department's recent Epstein files on WSJ and found these info, thought it's quite interesting. His family spending was $600k/month in 2015, which is actually frugal (!) for his net worth.
- Leon Black kept $154 million in cash across his dozens of bank accounts. Interest rate max 0.15%.
- More than $2 billion of Black’s wealth was tied up in Apollo stock. His net worth in 2015 was $5B.
- His art collection, rare-book collection and other personal items were worth $2.8 billion (55% net worth). He also had seven homes, 11 cars, a Gulfstream jet and a Benetti yacht. These personal expenses do NOT include the jet & yacht, which are likely under business expense.
- The Black family spent $1.2 million over the course of two months of 2015, according to a summary of the household’s expenses prepared by a company that helps wealthy families track their finances. This includes $27,000 on dining out, $35,000 on clothing and $67,000 on wine and liquor. They paid nearly $48,000 for landscaping at their Hamptons home during this two-month period.
- Black also had a $484 million loan from Bank of America backed by his extensive art collection. The loan was secured by paintings from artists including Edgar Degas, Paul Cézanne and Pablo Picasso. Black is a prolific art collector who bought Edvard Munch’s “The Scream” for $120M in 2012. He also had a book collection valued at $82 million (he bought a rare Babylonian Talmud later in 2015 for over $9 million) and Chinese bronzes worth $335 million.

Monthly spending ranked from highest to lowest item:
Rank Category Monthly ($)
1 School taxes (listed next to property taxes) 74,578
2 Professional services 52,940
3 Property taxes 52,632
4 Maintenance & maintenance fees 46,246
5 Other (Residence) 39,323
6 Art 37,750
7 Credit cards 36,813
8 Insurance & medical 36,615
9 Landscaping 35,854
10 Wine/liquor 33,667
11 Utilities 26,113
12 Renovations 24,168
13 Other (Personal) 20,441
14 Clothing 17,526
15 Travel – Other 15,334
16 Dining out 13,598
17 Private plane 12,548
18 Educational donations 12,500
19 Clubs & hobbies 6,720
20 Hotel 5,152
21 Flowers 1,595
22 Car wash 447
23 Private school 273

Source: document released by Justice Department

Kara Dapena/WSJ "Inside a $5 Billion Fortune: One Family’s Ledger in the Epstein Files"
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