請教板上的專業前輩,艾倫在G6第4節最後投的3分球 那算走步嗎?

當一個play要事後不斷重播,慢速定格一格一格檢查,

拿出籃球規則仔細研究後做出許多解釋及深度討論,

我只能說

沒走步無誤
好好備戰明年吧
想想什麼方法才能擊敗LBJ呢


Schindler wrote:
別裝了,閣下嘴臭,版...(恕刪)


Schindler wrote:
To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation.A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor. When ending his dribble a player may use a two count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting.

這一段講的是運球的狀態下,
Ray Allen可沒有運球...


Not to be mean or anything again.
But, can you read?
Do you understand the rule now?

Schindler wrote:
三步上籃看不出哪裡有問題,


Not to be mean or anything again and again.
你在說笑嗎?

Schindler wrote:
閣下有見過有裁判在上半場就用慢動作重播作定奪的嗎?


二十年前你有看裁判做任何慢動作重播做定奪嗎?
重點是 "三步上籃" 你是在說笑嗎?
還有規則你看懂沒?

Schindler wrote:
要先運球再上籃(共三步),否則算走步,
不運球除非接到隊友球後兩步直接就上籃就沒有走步


規則明明就講 two count rhythm,
到底你在講什麼 "三" 步?

To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation.A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor. When ending his dribble a player may use a two count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting.

還有這一球標準範例 "馬刺" 的 鬼走先運球再一路走滿全場上籃, 遠超過三步,
你到底在講什麼 "三步上籃" ?
你到底從哪道聽塗說來的 "三步上籃" ?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27w2p_manu-ginobili-picks-it-up-and-trave_sport

那人就兩隻腳...
上藍要就一腳是軸心腳,
一腳不是軸心腳,
運完球先著地的是軸心腳,
上籃出手的時候球要軸心腳 "再次" 著地前出手,
那先著地的第一步 (軸心腳)
後著地的第二步 (非軸心腳)
第三部你是要用哪隻腳著地? 中心腳嗎?
到底你哪來的第三步?
Cudacke Dees wrote:
Not to be mean or anything again.
But, can you read?
Do you understand the rule now?


Again, I mean it.
閣下嘴臭,
版上眾人皆知,
是否有因此被站方管理人員處理或遭版友揶揄,
閣下心裡有數

Cudacke Dees wrote:
二十年前你有看裁判做任何慢動作重播做定奪嗎?


拿二十年前來與現在相比?
慢動作重播是科技進步後,
已達到可比肉眼更為精確的程度,
近年才被採用的,
二十年前你有看過有人拿智慧型手機嗎?

Cudacke Dees wrote:
還有這一球標準範例 "馬刺" 的 鬼走先運球再一路走滿全場上籃, 遠超過三步,
你到底在講什麼 "三步上籃" ?
你到底從哪道聽塗說來的 "三步上籃" ?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27w2p_manu-ginobili-picks-it-up-and-trave_sport


說得好像鬼切都沒有運球,
抱著球衝過半場一樣,
他是在罰球線附近收球然後上籃的,
或許在運球過程中,
交代得不是很清楚,
但是閣下自己說不需要用慢動作來定奪的,
在我來看,這是還在第一節的比賽當中,
甚至離第一節終了也還有三分鐘,
也用不著慢動作來定奪

至於"三步上籃",
閣下可以自行google

Schindler wrote:
他是在罰球線附近收球然後上籃的,


Schindler wrote:
我在籃球規則沒看到甚麼叫收球過程,
只看到走步違規的規則,


你前幾頁還在講什麼沒有收球,
只有走步違規規則的,
請不要一下就反復亂改阿...


Schindler wrote:
至於"三步上籃",
閣下可以自行google


網上除了道聽塗說以外,
還真的沒有實際 規則上 的 "三步上籃"
規則很明確的說了,
偶也查給你了,
你也確定漏讀了,
然後偶又畫重點給你,

To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation.A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor. When ending his dribble a player may use a two count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting.

那人就兩隻腳,
上籃要就一腳是軸心腳,
一腳不是軸心腳,
運完球先著地的是軸心腳,
上籃出手的時候球要軸心腳 "再次" 著地前出手,
那先著地的第一步 (軸心腳)
後著地的第二步 (非軸心腳)
第三部你是要用哪隻腳著地? 中心腳嗎?
到底你哪來的第三步?

yes. I did the search just for you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=three+step+lay+up&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

and here is one of the result.
Not to be mean again, again and again.
But you asked to search Google and here is the answer for you.
To be nice and kind, I go ahead and mark the main part of 3 step layup for your.

"Technically you are allowed a two-count rhythm associated by how a player receives the ball and the pivot foot is the basis for the counts. Typically the two-count rhythm is considered to equal 1 and 1 half steps, because on the second step you must either pass or shoot. However in the NBA they are relaxed on the traveling and some refs will allow for an extra step taking into consideration a player on fast break running at full speed. As long as they are consistent no one will complain too much. There is a dumb rumor that three steps are allowed before a layup, but only two steps on any other shot, etc. This is complete false. Also street rules are different than NBA as is NCAA. They are similar, but there a few differences. "

那當然一份資料不夠偶還幫你找了特別以 3 step layup 教學的影片.
http://on.aol.com/video/how-to-coach-basketball--3-step-lay-up-6183939

那當然如果你以這個球運下去的腳步來算,
看這個馬刺球員的標準上籃,
他最後一次運下去到上籃... 四步喔!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27w2p_manu-ginobili-picks-it-up-and-trave_sport

所以你到底在講什麼 "三步上籃" ?
規則真的沒有耶!
Cudacke Dees wrote:
你前幾頁還在講什麼沒有收球,
只有走步違規規則的,
請不要一下就反復亂改阿...


我有說規則當中有收球這個東西嗎?
我只是用你聽的懂的話來跟你討論而已,
我並沒有改我說的話

Cudacke Dees wrote:
網上除了道聽塗說以外,
還真的沒有實際 規則上 的 "三步上籃"


我也沒有說規則當中有三步上籃,
是你自己改別人的話
明明...

影片27秒的時候 跳起來接球

如果右腳先落地 應該是走步吧?
左腳或雙腳落地則沒走步!

我怎麼看都是右腳先落地啊..

NBA的判決絕對不是【事實】為優先考量

【事實】是Allen走步了
【現實】是NBA沒判他走步

至於為什麼沒判...這根本【不重要】
什麼軸心腳沒動都是參考。
裁判自由心證,沒吹就是沒走步…
今天我殺了人
法官卻判我沒殺人
那我也可以說沒判就是沒殺啊

有沒有判跟有沒有殺是兩回事 也可以混成一回事


今天如果能從影片證明他不是右腳先落地
又或者證明籃球規則有哪條規定這不是走步動作
才能證明【事實】上他沒走步

至於什麼NBA判決,誰誰誰也怎樣,或者其他怎樣也沒判
這就免了,因為【現實】已是如此,沒有笨到需要人解釋吧!
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