代理商找碴~
刪除,不想惹麻煩~~
本來想刪除的,看到代理商的回覆;決定還是把文PO上來
台灣的消費者總是弱勢
我覺得還是把我自己遇到的使用經驗告訴大家
原本的文章只是討論對岸有很多論壇在討論,使用OAT DEX-COOL會對發動機密封墊產生腐蝕
請問到底是在散佈什麼謠言損害你們公司
google上搜尋OAT DEX-COOL 腐蝕,其實對岸很多人在討論
我的車是台塑Matiz引擎汽缸床墊片無故小衝,我就是用prestone dex-cool af850的冷卻液
我還修了2次汽缸床墊片;我才會懷疑是不是冷卻液有問題
我的車在台中修理的~~~~
我還修了2次汽缸床墊片,下面是修第一次
凱順汽車
去看一看照片那個備水桶裡的冷卻液是不是你們家的冷卻液顏色
引擎修完我又換了你們家的冷卻液prestone dex-cool af850
一段時間後又沖掉了,我家還留了一桶不敢用
說我在散布謠言什麼鬼呀~~~
說我在散布謠言什麼鬼呀~~~
說真的你們公司應該是要跟消費者說明什麼車可以用什麼車不能用吧~~~
冷卻液的規範這麼多,都可以混用然後沒事
聽你在放X~~~~~說真的我真的有點生氣了。
你們PO的文章上說~~
美國Prestone公司的有機酸型冷卻防凍液在按照產品說明正確使用下,絕對不會造成車內系統腐蝕而洩漏的狀況。
請問不正確的使用方式是不是有機會造成車內系統腐蝕而洩漏的狀況
怎樣不正確的使用會造成問題,是貴公司是要跟我們消費者說明的吧~~~~~
不是PO一堆英文然後要我提出證據,我的車就是沖掉了啊
是要提出什麼證據啦~~~~~
我是絕對不會再用你們家的產品了
原廠貨就很好用了,沒必要冒風險
f711079 wrote:
請問一下prestone...(恕刪)
已收到訊息了~~~
我也沒留言什麼吧 怎麼寄這些信 給我看= =
進入澄清說明https://www.ur-chance.com/news_detail/11.htm :
臺灣知名論壇散播美國Prestone產品的不實謠言,美國Prestone公司在臺灣的總代理商「運利有限公司」代表美國Prestone公司澄清不實謠言,並附上美國Prestone公司技術中心Dr. Bo Yang的詳細說明,以保護Prestone公司和產品的聲譽。
美國Prestone公司的有機酸型冷卻防凍液在按照產品說明正確使用下,絕對不會造成車內系統腐蝕而洩漏的狀況。
若有發言者散播相關負面訊息,請提出實際的直接舉證。如果不能證明僅是因為使用Prestone的有機酸型冷卻防凍液而造成車內系統損壞,請務必將所有不實謠言下架,並且承諾未來將不會再散波不實謠言以損害Prestone的聲譽。
內文中,
Neither Chrysler nor Fiat has released the complete composition formula for their antifreezes. They reportedly are cocktails of three organic acids, featuring sebacate, but no 2-ethylhexanoate (2-EHA). The latter is a cost-effective but controversial additive that softens plastics, particularly silicone, leading to leaks from affected sealing materials, which means that silicone cannot be used in gaskets, O-rings, and hoses if the antifreeze contains 2-EHA.
看來是針對矽材質的墊圈&水管有影響
The performance test for DexCool formulas, which have de facto Ford approval, are designed to exclude both silicates and phosphates, an alternative to silicates used in all Asian OEM formulas. Phosphates and silicates long were combined in a formula called “conventional American” antifreeze. That type typically had a recommended service life of only two years or 30,000 miles (48,000 km).
福特認證,替換矽酸&磷酸鹽類的冷卻液物質
似乎新型引擎材料改換成適用長效的OAT?
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廠商官網:
http://prestone.com/learn_more/frequently_asked_questions?select_region=1
Q:
Does Prestone® Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates?
A:
Some European automobile manufacturers request that a phosphate-free antifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related to the extremely high mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were to mix an antifreeze that contained phosphates with the type of water they have in Europe, it may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling system and promote corrosion. However, in North America we do not have this type of water problem. Typical North American coolants have contained phosphates (which is part of the corrosion inhibitor package) for many years. Therefore, the question of phosphates is a non-issue here in North America. Prestone® Antifreeze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both foreign and domestic vehicles.
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說明歐洲車要選用無磷酸鹽的冷卻劑,因為當地水質
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http://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/1135/is-prestone-all-makes-all-models-coolant-really-compatible-with-all-models
There are silicate antifreezes, used in most domestic cars until recent years, and OAT antifreezes, used in Japanese cars because of their domestic market testing, where the silicate is replaced with phosphates.
Domestic cars today all use OAT now, with Chrysler the last to switch. See:
http://www.sae.org/mags/aei/mater/11284
Any OAT antifreeze will work in a Honda, but don't use silicate antifreeze in a Japanese coolant system. Evidence shows it reduces water pump life in certain Japanese import cars.
日系不要用矽酸鹽冷卻劑,會減少水泵壽命
可以參考這些圖片, 冷卻液各大品牌網站只要輸入車型年份, 就會顯示對應產品, 一般來說就不會選錯了,
千萬不要只看顏色, 同一款產品在產品更新或不同地區可能會換顏色, 比如Zerex G-05美版是用黃色染劑, 在亞洲版是用綠色, 東西其實是一樣的
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