公路賽車手 wrote:
這點我同意,我就是賣(恕刪)

我實測後這確實影響很大
原本我用4g+16g,結果看水管4k會掉幀
換了兩條16g後,超級順的
後來查了一下發現雙通道本來就會對內顯性能有很大的提升
國外論壇是說兩條8G就可以了
Tim wrote:
intel的內顯無論(恕刪)


如果大家都用相容機威脅到了蘋果台式機的市場會發生什麼事?
1.想辦法防堵
2.改善自身產品增加競爭力去對抗相容機?

其實這個問題大家可以好好思考一下,我沒推廣相容機因為對我沒有什麼好處,我只是點出相容機的優點
用不用在於個人

如同我不會去建議人家去將筆記本改成黑蘋果一樣,筆記本只能選macbook pro,這點到目前仍是沒問題的,因為沒有更好的方案
公路賽車手 wrote:
如果大家都用相容機威...(恕刪)


基本上你就像花錢買了一台裝了盜版Windows的電腦。微軟會抓的是賣你電腦的人。而且你的電腦每一次的軟體升級,不是要你的電腦供應商給你特別的patch, 就是自己要先下載並安裝新的kext到EFI, 並backup 整個硬碟再禱告一下,然後執行升級(請參考www.tonymacx86.com)。對於用蘋果產品賺錢的人,這樣風險太大了。

只有一句話,請尊重別人的智慧財產權。雖然蘋果不是靠賣軟體賺錢,但它的OS是屬於蘋果的智慧財產。

對了,內顯是用系統的記憶體, 所以系統記憶體吃緊時, 用到動態取用記憶體的部分會有影響. 我發現現在的軟體都很吃記憶體, 跑個2019 Office Outlook要1G, Safari掛在Mobile01也要超過400MB, Dock竟然要30-300多MB. 我已訂購32GB的記憶體, 反正記憶體自己加實在太便宜了.
剛剛換上一條10美元USC Type C轉DP 1.4的adapter, Mac Mini從休眠換醒後,螢幕顯示正常。我的藍芽也很穩定. 有可能因為我住在美國LA. 大家住的是House. 所以2.4Ghz Wifi互相干擾狀況小. 如果內建藍芽不穩, 可試著停用內建的藍芽, 在USB Hub上裝一個相容的藍芽adapter來避開這個問題. 現在我的Mac Min一切正常, 只要加上新的記憶體,然後穩穩的至少用個五年吧!

Oops. 剛剛發現Dock竟然吃掉900MB記憶體, 網路上找到答案, 現在只用30多MB.
Tim wrote:
如果內建藍芽不穩, 可試著停用內建的藍芽, 在USB Hub上裝一個相容的藍芽adapter來避開這個問題


我很佩服大大這麼體諒蘋果
我個人是無法接受藍芽干擾跟螢幕訊號無法識別的問題

還好這問題沒出現在我的macbook pro 2017上,而且同樣是台式機的mac mini 2014也沒發生這個問題
公路賽車手 wrote:
我很佩服大大這麼體諒...(恕刪)

我這次是第一次買蘋果的電腦,雖然我從Snow Leopard開始玩起。對我只是當hobby在玩,自己偷偷的玩,跑得好不好並不重要。但我曾是軟體工程師,尊重智慧財產權是嚴肅且必要的。如果大眾無接受蘋果的產品與行銷方式,它自然會被市場淘汰。

對於藍芽的問題,我的Mac Mini沒碰到,所以我無法評論。但因為碰過太多黑蘋果的問題,習慣的就想著如何避開問題。

題外話,HDMI 2.0端口對intel 內顯來講,好像一直都有點問題。一般intel主機板很少支援HDMI 2.0. 蘋果可能也是直接拿intel的韌體與驅動程式直接用。我依希記得曾找到Macbook Air用內顯,USB-C轉HDMI 2.0也有類似的問題。
Tim wrote:
我這次是第一次買蘋果(恕刪)


有一位YT曾經做一個實驗,用蘋果相容機跟MAc pro 2019,用FCPX做一段視頻輸出測試速度,結果發現蘋果相容機還比Mac pro,快一分鐘完成輸出作業,大家可能覺得一分鐘沒什麼,但是那台mac pro選配後可是要價44萬,那台相容機我想不會超過10萬吧,這實驗是在業界很有名的販售相容機店家完成的
**外接顯卡就不提了.....效能更慘**
那位YT得出一個結論,蘋果產品的硬體無法100%加速FCPX的運算效能,核顯跟獨立顯卡無法配合作業,我推測是T2晶片在搞怪,但相容機沒這個問題,他的硬件直接運作不用透過T2晶片的認證

所以當你花大錢買了蘋果的設備但效能卻慘輸某店家所賣的相容機,而且蘋果還搞一個T2晶片來限制消費者升級硬件,我想這是任何人都無法接受的吧,微軟是一間軟體公司大家應該都知道,但蘋果是一間賣硬體的公司,我相信很多人都不知道,才會有MAC OS不能安裝在普通PC上的錯覺

如果那一天發現mac mini 2018 HDMI輸出到螢幕上會有訊號無法辨識的問題,結果是出在哪顆T2晶片(我假設情形),那就好玩了

蘋果防消費者就跟防小偷一樣謹慎,mac mini 2018硬體設計的瑕疵,不會因為你增加記憶體就能改善的,更別相信2020年推出的改款會更換通訊晶片,並沒有....蘋果電腦用的一直都是broadcom出的晶片
違法就是違法, 難道你要向法官說賣你相容機的公司認為蘋果是一間賣硬體的公司, 所以這家公司可以把蘋果開發出來的OS裝在自家組的硬體來賣並牟利? 業界很有名的販售相容機店家 Oh my god! 我真的不相信我住超過30年的台灣法治觀念依然薄弱.


"所以當你花大錢買了蘋果的設備但效能卻慘輸某店家所賣的相容機,而且蘋果還搞一個T2晶片來限制消費者升級硬件,我想這是任何人都無法接受的吧" 不喜歡蘋果的產品就不要用!! 就算他的產品貴又爛, 市場自然會將其淘汰. 而這與盜用他的軟體是兩碼子事.

這層樓已歪. 回到正題. 我的2020 Mac Mini, 8GB RAM/512GB SSD. 解決Dock吃記憶體後目前跑得很順. 用Wifi 5Ghz. 藍芽沒問題. 我沒用HDMI 2.0端口. 而是用一個很便宜的USB Type C轉DP 1.4的adapter走DP到我的LG 27" 4K螢幕. 現在都正常. 當然他的UI沒有RX560獨顯快. 但依然順暢. 如果要獨顯就得買TB3 eGPU的機子. 我沒有這個需求. 32GB RAM已購買還未到貨. 其實16GB對我的使用就夠了. 只是現在DRAM便宜, 實在忍不住就買了2x16GB.

P.S. =============== 副文, 有興趣可讀一下. 他告訴你為什麼相容機是違法, 蘋果可如何告死你
Is selling hackintosh computers illegal?
2 Answers
Bill Stein
Bill Stein, Legal Studies, USAFA

Short answer: yes, selling Hackintosh computers is illegal.
Longer answer: The EULA for OS X is very clear on how it can be used:

The grants set forth in this License do not permit you to, and you agree not to, install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-branded computer, or to enable others to do so.

It doesn’t matter how you purchased the software (if you purchased it at all). You don’t actually “own” the software. You are not permitted to run it on “whatever hardware” you like. When you “buy” the software, you are really just buying the right to use it (a license), and you must remain in full compliance of the EULA bundled with the software when you do so. And according to that EULA, it is, for all intents and purposes, illegal to install on any hardware other than Apple hardware.

The question though was: can you sell it?

If you ask the courts that handled the Psystar case, ruling in favor of Apple, the answer would be a most definite no.

Psystar was an interesting case. The company actually sold computers pre-designed to accept OS X as a native operating system. As much as Psystar tried to circumvent the EULA by proving a bundled copy of OS X and not actually installing the software itself, Apple’s lawsuit was successful, winning damages and multiple appeals against Psystar, which has since been permanently barred from selling its Hackintosh systems.[1]

What can happen to you for doing it? Most likely, nothing will happen. Just like most likely nothing will happen to you if you copy a music file off of Pandora and insert it into your personal music collection. But let’s look at the unlikely. What could happen? Apple could sue you for violating the licensing agreement. That amounts to breach of contract, copyright infringement, breaches of the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act), etc. The amount of money it will cost you in legal fees alone would make it prohibitively costly to sell them. Additionally, while Apple *probably* wouldn’t go after you for building a Hackintosh for your own personal use (they may, and they have the right to do so, so caveat emptor), they are far more likely to go after you if you attempt to profit off of the violation of their EULA. Just as if you rip a song from Pandora, make a million copies, and sell them, you’re more likely to get sued if you attempt to profit from the theft than if you just build one yourself for fun.

There is a fundamental difference between OS X and Windows. Microsoft is a software company. They design software which is made to run on a wide variety of platforms. Apple, on the other hand, is a hardware company which also makes value-added software to run on its hardware. Its profits come from the hardware, not the software. This is why Microsoft Office retails for well over $100, while iWork can be purchased for around $30, IIRC. If you could run OS X on a PC for around $30 instead of paying the $1000 that Apple charges for its hardware, Apple is losing its primary source of revenue.

So while Microsoft doesn’t really care what platform you run their software on, Apple very much does. This is why it is not legal to run OS X on any hardware other than Apple-branded hardware.

And I definitely wouldn’t sell them.
Tim wrote: 查了一下,蘋果在2019已換了Mini 的無線網卡,(恕刪)

Apple針對2020 mac mini只提升了SSD容量,其他的硬體都沒更換。
用蘋果自家的Magic mouse2 ,鼠標移動會停頓,中斷連結後再連結。
imac 4K反而不會。
慕容啟介 wrote:
Apple針對2020(恕刪)

我用的是台灣買的蘋果Magic Keyboard 2與在美國買的Magic Touchpad 2.  用了一週至今從沒有使用中斷的問題. 可能是附近2.4Ghz干擾少嗎?

我L形桌上東西可不少. 除了Mac Mini, 還有一台Dual Boot(Windows 10/OSX)電腦, Ender 3 Pro 3D印表機, Amazon Echo Show 5, Raspberry PI, Dual Boot Lenovo T450s. Mac Mini有一個USB3A Hub (接CL Omni 5.1音效卡與有線軌球滑鼠), 另一個USB A端口有一台外接4K Blu-Ray機. TB3接一個外掛的USB 3.1 Gen 2 NVME SSD. 另一個TB3用USB-Type C轉DP 1.4接到LG 27" 4K螢幕.
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